and page, a criminal defense and constitutional attorney. i'll also talk to a man who knows the toll of a different kind of cheating. former governor mark sanford is back and he's here. we begin with lance armstrong. i'm going to start with you. this breaks your heart. i remember when you wrote this. it was at a time when many people were turning on lance armstrong. i admired your loyalty, frankly, as someone who clearly wanted to believe in him, because he had said to you himself, repeatedly, i never doped. i'm told you exchanged e-mails with him in the last week. tell me about that. >> i wrote a column at the daily beast on monday, and i probably should have done it sooner, repudiating the cover story, which i sort of flawed it hook, line, and sinker. lance e-mailed me yesterday and said, look, i f'd up, i want to apologize. i'm really, really sorry for sending you down this road. >> i think it was heartfelt. i didn't respond. i don't think there's anything to respond to. i still wonder, is he playing me? i think he did the same with rick